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    2018 Rule Changes

    USA Softball has finally posted their rule changes here.

    Nothing too earth-shattering, except new rules regarding number of players batting in JO pool play, and how dead ball appeals can be made.

    And... discuss!
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    Not a bad list of changes, I like the appeal play change (which is now in alignment with NCAA and NFHS). I remember early on in my NCAA career that I told the coach that she couldn't make the appeal. Oops.

    Time limit change is good, but nonetheless, it is a time limit.

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    If an injured player is unable to take their turn to at bat the batting order will be compressed with no out recorded for the injured player unable to
    bat.


    So, the out for going shorthanded has been eliminated? Maybe this "Comment" section wasn't well worded or inclusive of specific situations. Going to wait and see what the exact wording of the rule will be when the book is published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishmafia View Post
    If an injured player is unable to take their turn to at bat the batting order will be compressed with no out recorded for the injured player unable to
    bat.


    So, the out for going shorthanded has been eliminated? Maybe this "Comment" section wasn't well worded or inclusive of specific situations. Going to wait and see what the exact wording of the rule will be when the book is published.
    Seems to be, but remember, this is pool play only. Remember, pool play is basically exhibition at national championships, and the design of the "bat everyone" is to get the maximum play out of the players for exposure. The problem will be if these rules start to creep into the elimination (bracket) games.

    For the record, I don't have any problems with the rules for pool play in any version/reversion. However, once the tournament hits double elimination, then I only support traditional rules (bat 9 or DP/flex).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianS View Post
    Seems to be, but remember, this is pool play only. Remember, pool play is basically exhibition at national championships, and the design of the "bat everyone" is to get the maximum play out of the players for exposure.
    Wouldn't this actually cut into the exposure of many of the players especially with the cut in the time limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishmafia View Post
    Wouldn't this actually cut into the exposure of many of the players especially with the cut in the time limit?
    Yes and no. On the yes side, there are only so many "at bats per game" and if you divide by 9 that is more per person that if you divide by 14.

    On the no side, there were some players not getting into the game at all.

    But what I think it comes down to, is that the "almighty college coach" who is watching doesn't have to wait to see the recruit participate. The coach can stay for 4 innings and watch an at bat.

    But remember, these are rules for national championships, where pool play really doesn't matter. Local associations can change the rules for pool play if pool play does matter (in PA, it does matter as you get a "seed" into the double elimination, but we will be playing with USA NC pool play rules).

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    So, out of curiosity, what kinds of instructions have people been given so far regarding the dead ball appeals from coaches? In particular, has anyone gotten any instructions on how to handle this in the adult game (slow pitch) where coaches aren't always so easily identifiable?

    In slow pitch, it seems like each team has about 15 coaches and no players.
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    No direction, but here's my approach.

    Infielders, including pitcher and catcher, have always been allowed to make a dead ball appeal.

    If someone is NOT listed on the roster, but has obviously been operating as a coach, I will recognize him as a coach.

    If someone is listed on the roster as a player, he isn't a coach, unless he identifies himself as one at the "coaches" pregame meeting. In my experience those team members that are "captains", or actually running the team, want the others to shut up as much as you do.

    In practicality, if ANYONE is repeatedly shouting to try to make an appeal, someone that legitimately can will ultimately speak up. Don't hesitate and waste game time, just ask the catcher to repeat what you heard, so it comes to you legally, rather than stand on the ceremony of refusing to recognize the self-appointed "coach".

    Just my opinion, now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve View Post
    Don't hesitate and waste game time, just ask the catcher to repeat what you heard, so it comes to you legally, rather than stand on the ceremony of refusing to recognize the self-appointed "coach".

    Just my opinion, now.
    I share that opinion, but one time I asked the pitcher what the guy in the OF was screaming about? The pitcher's response was, "I don't know, he's a fuckin' idiot"

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